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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Darin Sunley via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] LLMs cannot be conscious<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>…<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>>…Are we now moving the goalposts on consciousness to where nothing that isn't at least a virtual robot with sensors and manipulators embedded in a 3+1 dimensional space could possibly be conscious? Darin <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The field could become its own moving company, with special equipment capable of handling goal posts. We have come to accept it with grace and only minor annoyance. If K2SO showed up, philosophers would argue with him about whether or not he is a sentient being.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I look at it this way Darin: even if it isn’t really AI, it’s cool anyway.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>