<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 3:20 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 23, 2023, 4:24 PM Gordon Swobe via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Bender's point is not that ChatGBT is incapable of generating sensible sentences about sticks and bears. It is that these LLMs don't know the meanings of any words whatsoever. Confronted with a word it has never seen, it must do a statistical analysis to try to find probable next words, never knowing what any of them mean. </div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You keep insisting that. But you don't address the fact that our brains learn meaning and understanding from tapping into what amounts to a pure information channel.</div></div></blockquote><div><br>The brain is a mysterious organ and neuroscience is still in its infancy. All I can say is that one does not learn the meaning of words only by looking at how they are arranged in patterns, which is all these language models do. They've machine-learned the syntax of language -- the rules that define how these word-symbols arrange in patterns -- and can manipulate and assemble them in patterns that follow the same rules -- but I disagree with you that from these rules they can know the meanings of the symbols.<br><br>-gts<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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