<div dir="ltr">Man this letter is crazy. Gaia is a massive machine that already exists and produces lots of things that could be useful to a machine. Humans, too. I think a rogue AI would enslave life rather than use us as atomic building blocks. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like a smart AI wouldn't destroy such a useful system</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 9:40 PM Gordon Swobe via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Having been away from ExI for so long, I did not know until recently (or perhaps I had forgotten) that Eliezer had taken such a hard line on this subject. He didn't sign as he thinks it does not go far enough. He says we should destroy rogue datacenters by airstrike. <br><br>TIME Magazine, today March 29. <br>"Shut down all the large GPU clusters (the large computer farms where the most powerful AIs are refined). Shut down all the large training runs. Put a ceiling on how much computing power anyone is allowed to use in training an AI system, and move it downward over the coming years to compensate for more efficient training algorithms. No exceptions for anyone, including governments and militaries. Make immediate multinational agreements to prevent the prohibited activities from moving elsewhere. Track all GPUs sold. If intelligence says that a country outside the agreement is building a GPU cluster, be less scared of a shooting conflict between nations than of the moratorium being violated; be willing to destroy a rogue datacenter by airstrike."<br>-Eliezer Yudkowsky<br><br><a href="https://time.com/6266923/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-open-letter-not-enough/" target="_blank">https://time.com/6266923/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-open-letter-not-enough/</a><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 12:11 AM Gordon Swobe <<a href="mailto:gordon.swobe@gmail.com" target="_blank">gordon.swobe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I agree and am glad to see this development. As I have argued here, these language models literally have no idea what they are talking about. They have mastered the structures of language but have no grounding. They are blind software applications with no idea of the meanings of the words and sentences they generate. If they were human, we would call them sophists.<br><br>From the letter:<br><br>--<br><span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Inter;font-size:16px">Contemporary AI systems are now becoming human-competitive at general tasks,[3] and we must ask ourselves: Should we let machines flood our information channels with propaganda and untruth? Should we automate away all the jobs, including the fulfilling ones? Should we develop nonhuman minds that might eventually outnumber, outsmart, obsolete and replace us? Should we risk loss of control of our civilization? Such decisions must not be delegated to unelected tech leaders. Powerful AI systems should be developed only once we are confident that their effects will be positive and their risks will be manageable. This confidence must be well justified and increase with the magnitude of a system's potential effects. OpenAI's recent statement regarding artificial general intelligence, states that "At some point, it may be important to get independent review before starting to train future systems, and for the most advanced efforts to agree to limit the rate of growth of </span>compute<span style="color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Inter;font-size:16px"> used for creating new models." We agree. That point is now.</span><p style="box-sizing:inherit;max-width:120ch;margin:1em 0px 0px;color:rgb(64,64,64);font-family:Inter;font-size:16px"><br>Therefore, we call on all AI labs to immediately pause for at least 6 months the training of AI systems more powerful than GPT-4. This pause should be public and verifiable, and include all key actors. If such a pause cannot be enacted quickly, governments should step in and institute a moratorium.<br>--<br><a href="https://twitter.com/SmokeAwayyy/status/1640906401408225280?s=20" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/SmokeAwayyy/status/1640906401408225280?s=20</a><br><br>-gts</p></div>
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