<div dir="ltr">Found the article where I saw the analogy...<br><br>Introducing the AI Mirror Test, which very smart people keep failing<br><a href="https://www.theverge.com/23604075/ai-chatbots-bing-chatgpt-intelligent-sentient-mirror-test">https://www.theverge.com/23604075/ai-chatbots-bing-chatgpt-intelligent-sentient-mirror-test</a><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 5:36 PM Gordon Swobe <<a href="mailto:gordon.swobe@gmail.com">gordon.swobe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 2:18 PM Giovanni Santostasi via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Gordon,<div dir="auto"><b>almost everybody disagrees with you. </b></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">ChatGPT-4 itself agrees with me. It says it cannot solve the symbol grounding problem for itself as it has no conscious experience, and says it therefore does not understand the meanings of the words as humans do, and that in this respect it is at a disadvantage compared to humans. See my thread on the subject.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Spike also agrees these are only language analysis tools. Brent also seems to agree that they have no access to referents and therefore no way to know meanings of words.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And this is not democracy, in any case. I’m not afraid to be in the company people who disagree wit me.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-gts</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" dir="auto">> -gts<br>
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