<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small"> human DNA is less than a gigabyte of information, which is surprisingly simple, simpler even than modern video games which often are 60+ gigabytes in size.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Now you are telling me that a video game is as complex as a person.  Can't be.  The combination of genes is for practical purposes infinite.   bill w</font></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 4:18 PM Gadersd via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The brain at birth has already received plenty of information from the environment.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Many animals have gestation periods. The signals received during gestation do not explain the exceptional capabilities of the human brain. The signals in the gestation period of dogs for example is not fundamentally different than that of humans. The hormones, nutrients, etc. are similar. The capabilities of the human brain must be due to the differences in our DNA compared to that of dogs. As Jason pointed out, human DNA is less than a gigabyte of information, which is surprisingly simple, simpler even than modern video games which often are 60+ gigabytes in size.<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Apr 6, 2023, at 3:24 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>…</b>><span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Gadersd via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [ExI] GPT-4 on its inability to solve the symbol grounding problem<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt" type="cite"><div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">>>…The brain is then strictly less complex than DNA.<u></u><u></u></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">>…I should emphasize that I am referring to the complexity of the brain at birth rather than the brain + information from the environment…<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The brain at birth has already received plenty of information from the environment.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">spike<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-s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