<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Since Spike mentioned a couple of trilogies, let me recommend three: All by Robertson DAvies, a CAnadian who is not nearly as popular as he should be. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 12:56 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <br>
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From: <a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a> <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> <br>
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>…Two different people can read the same book and come away with vastly<br>
different interpretations… the grand-C introduced his grand As and their<br>
friends (the party geezers) to his Universalist Unitarian friends who live<br>
next door…spike<br>
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OK, well ChatGPT demonstrated its ability to write compelling and<br>
interesting (even if slightly wacky) novels, but everybody knows, the most<br>
epic stories come in trilogies. Classic examples would be Steinbeck’s<br>
Cannery Row, Sweet Thursday and Tortilla Flats, with the second example<br>
being Asimov’s trilogy Foundation, Foundation and Empire, then Second<br>
Foundation, then there is the Godfather trilogy. All of these trilogies<br>
were enormously influential in literature.<br>
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Likewise, I see GPT’s eight graphic panels as parts 1 and 2 of an epic<br>
story of life in modern suburbia generated by software. <br>
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This all gives me an idea, which requires a bit of a running start and some<br>
analogies to what we saw unfold in the past year in top level chess. Long<br>
story short: a guy was doing well in online tournaments, but his quality of<br>
play varied wildly. Analysis of his games showed that he had cheated: they<br>
looked at the top level software and found he had entire move series<br>
identical to the computer in the games he won against higher-rated players.<br>
He got caught, admitted it, gave the money back. Then he did it again, but<br>
this time he used a number of different computers and covered his tracks<br>
better, but… he was caught a second time, admitted, was expelled from the<br>
professional online league. <br>
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The cheater then went to in-person tournaments. It was observed that he<br>
played at two different levels. He would sometimes play brilliantly for the<br>
first part of a game, then suddenly his quality of play would drop<br>
noticeably. The grandmasters suspected foul play, but he insisted he never<br>
cheated in over-the-board play. He was claiming he only cheated at home,<br>
where it was presumably much easier to get away with. OK then. A few<br>
months ago he “defeated” the world champion Carlson in a verrrrry<br>
suspicious-looking game. It is impossible to prove he cheated, but nearly<br>
all the chess world realizes he did it. We don’t know exactly how. This<br>
has killed in-person money tournaments.<br>
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That was the running start. Here’s idea. Computers have gotten better<br>
than humans at chess, but we don’t really know if a human/computer team<br>
would better than a computer alone. I do suspect the team would be better<br>
for the top humans, whose judgment in some positions is better than a<br>
computer’s. It isn’t that hard to see. So we could set up a computer/human<br>
collaboration playing another human/computer collaboration, running the same<br>
software.<br>
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Next we have a human/computer collaboration in writing fiction, kinda like<br>
how ChatGPT wrote that story about the Aged Animal House (the A house) next<br>
door to the stodgy old Universalist cult (the U house), with a little help<br>
from me. We eagerly anticipate the third part of the trilogy, but if it<br>
refuses, I shall hafta write it alone. I fear it shall not be nearly as<br>
good as parts 1 and 2.<br>
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