<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">I agree. I can't see the gut as having any effects on our basic personality, such as introversion. I hope you ate a lot of leafy greens: best way to restart the gut. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 1:20 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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On 07/04/2023 17:58, bill w wrote:<br>
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is that recent research has discovered a multitude of things
the gut does that affect our bodies and brains. Some have
referred to it as a second mind. Maybe we will find out that
it even has memories and can learn. bill w </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 2:15 AM
Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>>
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> How do you upload a gut and glial cells? bill w<br>
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I don't care about the gut itself (why would an upload need
one? And if <br>
a simulated gut turned out to be useful or even necessary, a
generic one <br>
would be fine, I'm sure), but the glia is an interesting one.
I don't <br>
know the answer, we don't really know what role - if any -
they play in <br>
our indentities yet, so we have to leave that one for the
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Yes, I've heard such things too, and more. Apparently the microbiome
in our guts can have a large influence on both our state of mind and
our immune system.<br>
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On the other hand, I've had severe gastroenteritis in the past, and
the attendant antibiotics and near-total reboot of my gut flora, and
it never, as far as I was aware, made any difference to who I was. I
never noticed any change, and neither did my friends or family.<br>
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An experiment I would be quite willing to undertake, would be to
live without my gut and attendant neural equipment (provided I
didn't die or become ill - which suggests this experiment could only
be realistically be performed on an upload), and see if it resulted
in any significant change in my personality.<br>
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My guess is that it wouldn't.<br>
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An experiment worth doing, though, I'd agree, when we can (actually,
this experiment, or something close, could possibly be done before
we can do uploading, but again, that's a whole other topic).<br>
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Is the solar plexus (or whatever it's popular to call it these days)
really an important part of who we are?<br>
<br>
i think that it has the status of a 'sub-mind' dedicated to
digestive matters. How important that is to our identity is anyone's
guess. Mine is: Not much.<br>
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Maybe it differs between individuals.<br>
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Ben<br>
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