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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/04/2023 19:07, bill w wrote:<br>
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cannot sense without consciousness Jason</span><br>
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face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Oh yes we can - dreams.
Visual, mostly, rarely auditory, never touch, smell or
taste (unless some chat member reports any of those. )
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I can definitely report that my dreams sometimes incorporate sound
(playing a musical instrument) and touch (we won't go there). Don't
recall taste or smell, though. Proprioception as well, though, very
commonly (as in, almost always. Many of my dreams are about movement
- running, cycling, skating, flying, as well as less common and
physically impossible ways of moving - and I can feel the motion,
not just see it).<br>
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The question of whether we are conscious while dreaming is an
interesting one, though. Lucid dreaming - are we really conscious
then? And I sometimes have what I'd call 'semi-lucid' dreams where I
can control events, or at least influence them, but am not as
conscious as in a lucid dream.<br>
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Ben<br>
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