<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 3:55 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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On 18/04/2023 06:59, Gordon Swobe wrote:<br>
<br>There is no direct perception of anything. </div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I did not mean that as a philosophical statement about what is called Direct or Naive Realism — just making the distinction between an apple in your hand and something entirely imaginary.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">We don't perceive apples,
we construct them.</div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Your argument about how we construct mental objects is perfectly fine with me, but the word “perception” still has meaning.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">When an ordinary person not busy doing philosophy about how we construct mental models refers to an apple that he sees, he is referring to his perception of it and not the physical apple itself, which is a distinction I should have but did not make clear at the outset.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-gts</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"></div></blockquote></div></div>