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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Giovanni Santostasi <gsantostasi@gmail.com> <br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] all we are is just llms was: RE: e: GPT-4 on its inability to solve the symbol grounding problem<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>>…Spike,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I spent some time looking at Berger online activity and she is spewing a lot of hate for these supposed artificial minds. She even calls them "so-called AI". She is super biased for different reasons, probably she is a post-modern superwoke advocate of some kind that thinks so-called AI will continue the oppression of the patriarchy.<br>Giovanni <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>OK no worries Giovanni, I know nossink about Berger and I am not following that.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have no particular insight into Eliezer’s contentions he has been carrying around for over 30 years, about whether AI will kill us. I don’t know enough to contribute to that debate.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I am now interested in the idea that consciousness and intelligence can be separated (never mind emotion for now (that one is just too dang complicated)) and if so, how would we measure consciousness?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>