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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/04/2023 17:42, Gadersd wrote:<br>
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Yet we know that there is something objective that gives rise to
them. Using the term “qualia” or “experience” so far has yielded
nothing amenable to scientific or mathematical investigation and
therefore no progress has been made. Without a rigorous definition
I don’t think any progress can be made beyond frantic handwaving.
Even worse, some of us are using different implicit definitions of
consciousness. We might as well add “How many angels can dance on
the head of a pin?” to the discussion and debate over the
definitions of “angel” and “pin."</blockquote>
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<span style="font-weight: normal;">"When I use a word," Humpty
Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I
choose it to mean — neither more nor less"</span><br>
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Ben<br>
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