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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] all we are is just llms<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 25/04/2023 00:00, spike wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>>>…In any case, I don’t know what that spike-trains business is about. Ben, do explain please. Sounds kinda cool.<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Try: <a href="http://www.neuwritewest.org/blog/2015/1/3/ask-a-neuroscientist-whats-a-spike-train">http://www.neuwritewest.org/blog/2015/1/3/ask-a-neuroscientist-whats-a-spike-train</a><br><br>>…Not to get too technical, neurons 'fire' by depolarising the cell membrane. …One other thing I will say: biology is messy. …. The brain is like a computer in some ways, and not like one in others, is really all you can sensibly say…Ben<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Cool thx Ben. I had never thought of it that way, but it is a cause for hope. If we find enough ways a brain is like a computer, it suggests a mind can (in theory) exist in a computer, which is something I have long believed and hoped is true. If thought is substrate dependent on biology, we are all sunk in the long run.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>