<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">point - neither habituation nor sensitization are learning - both are temporary effects - bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 8:26 AM Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/news/lobsters-octopus-and-crabs-recognised-as-sentient-beings" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.gov.uk/government/news/lobsters-octopus-and-crabs-recognised-as-sentient-beings</a><br>
<a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220720-do-octopuses-feel-pain" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220720-do-octopuses-feel-pain</a><br>
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In light of the quite incredible debate that has raged on ExI <br>
regarding sentience and consciousness for the past few weeks, I <br>
thought this was interesting. Apparently, the government of the UK has <br>
a list of animals that are deemed sentient for legal purposes such as <br>
protection from cruelty, etc. Notably, it has most recently added <br>
certain invertebrates to the list like cephalopods and crustacean <br>
based on 8 explicitly stated criteria for whether an animal can feel <br>
pain gleaned from over 300 scientific studies:<br>
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1. possession of nociceptors (receptors that detect noxious stimuli – <br>
such as temperatures hot enough to burn, or a cut)<br>
2. possession of parts of the brain that integrate sensory information<br>
3. connections between nociceptors and those integrative brain regions<br>
4. responses affected by local anaesthetics or analgesics<br>
5. motivational trade-offs that show a balancing of threat against <br>
opportunity for reward<br>
6. flexible self-protective behaviours in response to injury and threat<br>
7. associative learning that goes beyond habituation and sensitisation<br>
8. behaviour that shows the animal values local anaesthetics or <br>
analgesics when injured<br>
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While obviously, LLM and AI are not equipped to feel pain, the fact <br>
that a government is enlightened enough to use scientific research in <br>
order to spare sentient beings pain and suffering is impressive and <br>
forward thinking. So way to go, UK! :)<br>
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Stuart LaForge<br>
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