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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/05/2023 21:17, billw wrote:<br>
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                                  style="background:none">I have crossed
                                  60 and now 63, I observed aging is
                                  very fast, how can I slow down aging
                                  till death?</span></span></div>
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    Congratulations, Bill.<br>
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    One day, you'll catch up to me ;><br>
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    I've observed that ageing does seem to speed up, but I wouldn't say
    it's got 'very fast'. Of course, it's a lottery, there's a ton of
    different genetic factors, and you've just got to take your ticket
    and see if you've won anything. Personally, I don't have any real
    complaints (in both senses), so far.<br>
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    I agree with spike, re 'no exercise'. I find that exercise is
    essential, more so as I get older. It is a balance between wearing
    out and rusting up, but I've found that the rusting up happens
    faster, and probably diet has a lot to do with it as well. I try to
    follow a low-carb diet, which seems to be good for damping down
    systemic inflammation, which causes a lot of the damage and
    contributes to the 'wearing out'. I also do some mild yoga-type
    stretching and bending every morning, to keep my joints from
    stiffening up, and keep my muscles from tightening up. Maintaining
    your range of movement helps enormously, I find, in many ways. Also,
    a little mild cardiovascular exercise every day if possible - run,
    cycle, or swim. And taking days off, to do absolutely FA.<br>
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    Definitely agree with the weight advice. Although being low-carb, I
    eat more than the conventionally-recommended amounts of fat and
    meat. Helps with appetite control, I've found.<br>
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    Relationships - that's a personal thing, and personality plays a bit
    part in whether that's going to be stressful or not.<br>
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    Pets - I have an open mind. I've had no pets, and had pets, and I've
    no real leanings either way. Pros and cons each way. I Prefer cats
    to dogs, though. Dogs are too dependent.<br>
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    Stress - too much is not good but so is not enough. My job gives me
    just enough stress, and although I keep threatening to retire, I
    still enjoy it enough to keep going.<br>
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    One thing you didn't mention - nutritional supplements. I've been
    taking megadoses of various vitamins for a long time now, and as
    long as you keep track of the fatty vitamins, and be careful not to
    overdose on the ones that can cause problems, there are benefits, I
    think. I'm certainly happy to have 'expensive pee' in exchange for
    the possible benefits. B vitamins especially, I take massive amounts
    of them.<br>
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    Also, it helps if you maintain an active mind and have an interest
    in things. Keep learning, stay curious, make a fool of yourself
    every so often, and have a laugh (I reckon spike is going to live
    forever).<br>
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    Music! Appreciating it, learning it, making it, destroying it. Great
    fun. I like playing with both traditional and electronic
    instruments, making (trying to, at least!) my own, and making
    dreadful noises. Speaking of which, learn a language or two - good
    for your grey cells (Ich lerne Deutsch) and a good excuse to travel
    and annoy foreigners.<br>
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    And appreciate the fact that you have more knowledge and (hopefully)
    wisdom than ever before. Well ok, more experience at least!<br>
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    Finally, argue with people on Exi-Chat.<br>
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    Any more tips from anyone?<br>
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    Ben<br>
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