<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">My list was intended to be extreme, and not exhaustive or optimal for anything but increasing length of life.. I certainly could have included supplements, as I take over 20 pills a day, most supplements.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">The #1 stress cause: death of a spouse. So don't have one. They just get worse and worse as they age, healthwise. The only dependent variable I considered was length, not happiness or anything else.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Exercise - if you want to walk ten miles a day and climb mountains, then give up the idea that you won't wear out sooner - you will. You will have great muscles and heart function with knees and hips that want to stay home. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 4:45 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Congratulations, Bill.<br>
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One day, you'll catch up to me ;><br>
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I've observed that ageing does seem to speed up, but I wouldn't say
it's got 'very fast'. Of course, it's a lottery, there's a ton of
different genetic factors, and you've just got to take your ticket
and see if you've won anything. Personally, I don't have any real
complaints (in both senses), so far.<br>
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I agree with spike, re 'no exercise'. I find that exercise is
essential, more so as I get older. It is a balance between wearing
out and rusting up, but I've found that the rusting up happens
faster, and probably diet has a lot to do with it as well. I try to
follow a low-carb diet, which seems to be good for damping down
systemic inflammation, which causes a lot of the damage and
contributes to the 'wearing out'. I also do some mild yoga-type
stretching and bending every morning, to keep my joints from
stiffening up, and keep my muscles from tightening up. Maintaining
your range of movement helps enormously, I find, in many ways. Also,
a little mild cardiovascular exercise every day if possible - run,
cycle, or swim. And taking days off, to do absolutely FA.<br>
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Definitely agree with the weight advice. Although being low-carb, I
eat more than the conventionally-recommended amounts of fat and
meat. Helps with appetite control, I've found.<br>
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Relationships - that's a personal thing, and personality plays a bit
part in whether that's going to be stressful or not.<br>
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Pets - I have an open mind. I've had no pets, and had pets, and I've
no real leanings either way. Pros and cons each way. I Prefer cats
to dogs, though. Dogs are too dependent.<br>
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Stress - too much is not good but so is not enough. My job gives me
just enough stress, and although I keep threatening to retire, I
still enjoy it enough to keep going.<br>
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One thing you didn't mention - nutritional supplements. I've been
taking megadoses of various vitamins for a long time now, and as
long as you keep track of the fatty vitamins, and be careful not to
overdose on the ones that can cause problems, there are benefits, I
think. I'm certainly happy to have 'expensive pee' in exchange for
the possible benefits. B vitamins especially, I take massive amounts
of them.<br>
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Also, it helps if you maintain an active mind and have an interest
in things. Keep learning, stay curious, make a fool of yourself
every so often, and have a laugh (I reckon spike is going to live
forever).<br>
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Music! Appreciating it, learning it, making it, destroying it. Great
fun. I like playing with both traditional and electronic
instruments, making (trying to, at least!) my own, and making
dreadful noises. Speaking of which, learn a language or two - good
for your grey cells (Ich lerne Deutsch) and a good excuse to travel
and annoy foreigners.<br>
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And appreciate the fact that you have more knowledge and (hopefully)
wisdom than ever before. Well ok, more experience at least!<br>
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Finally, argue with people on Exi-Chat.<br>
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Any more tips from anyone?<br>
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Ben<br>
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