<div dir="auto">How does the platinum rule breakdown when anyone is a masochist? Unless you are pointing out that the pleasure the masochist receives from damage to their body is incorrectly temptingly wired (damn whatever God wired them that way;) and not what they truly want?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 16, 2023, 2:51 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">The Wiccan Rede apparently is just a statement of the writings of John STuart Mill in 'On Liberty'.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Both the Golden and Platinum Rules break down when the other person is a masochist bill w </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 3:34 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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how to build a moral system. What should be the basic
assumptions? Start with the Bill of Rights? Certainly a good
place.</div>
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For my money, the Wiccan Rede plus a variation of the 'platinum
rule'* works well.<br>
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Basically, do what you want, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else,
and treat others as they would want to be treated (as long as you
want to).<br>
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* No, not the golden rule. Popular though it is, that one is
fundamentally flawed (<a href="https://www.jesusandmo.net/tag/golden-rule/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.jesusandmo.net/tag/golden-rule/</a>)<br>
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Ben<br>
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