<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Statistics are not good for pills for psych conditions. However, relaxing drugs like Valium do work well, though people do get hooked on Valium. Antidepressants, according to the latest research, don't work well for most people. For some, yes. Antipsychotic drugs do help with some symptoms. I am not familiar enough with drugs for ADHD and all of that. You'll have to ask Henry for more on this, esp. for psychotherapy. Surely he has a take on this AI business.. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 3:50 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg3646786581867197178"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_3646786581867197178WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Chatgpt is replacing therapists<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">>…<span style="color:black">Depends. Don't know much about it, though. I do know that in some states clinical psychologists can prescribe anything a psychiatrist does. As far as legal confidentiality is concerned, I don't know. What did you have in mind? bill </span>w<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Not what I have in mind: I reckon I have lived this long with my personal brand of crazy, I can go the rest of the distance. What I meant was: if people use GPT for a psychological counseling, no one is liable for that, any more than if someone prays to their favorite deity, then goes and shoots up the local synagogue. That isn’t practicing medicine in either case. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">If one is using ChatGPT as a poor man’s psychologist, it is equivalent to talking to theirself. But… also note, I am recognizing talking to theirself is not necessarily a bad thing; it might help. It is likely an improvement on reading self-help books, for that is where it is likely getting its answers anyway.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">I haven’t tried to us GPT for that, but might at some point. If I ever get depression, I would see using GPT as the poor-man’s psychologist as a better approach than alcohol or drugs. I really don’t trust the chemical approach at all. Saw that go wrong too many times, saw it go right far too few. So… chat away, and good luck, best wishes for a speedy recovery.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">spike <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 1:23 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Chatgpt is replacing therapists<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br>Therapy with a psychologist is expensive and can go on for years.<br>It is obvious why people want a quicker and cheaper solution.<br><br>BillK </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:rgb(34,34,34)">I foresee lawsuite along the line of: practicing medicine without a license bill </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">w</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS""> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Billw, I understood that a psychologist is not under the same rules as a psychiatrist, since they doesn’t prescribe medications. 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