<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><span class="gmail-im" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I suspect that sodium sensitivity is idiosyncratic. depends on what</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">genes you have. In my case, going on low sodium causes my blood</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">pressure to go up. </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Or did some years ago. Keith</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">I read some years ago that salt affects blood pressure only in about 1/4 of the people. Have not seen that contradicted. So the advice, still given I read, is wrong for most people. bill w</font></span><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 12:50 PM Keith Henson via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 10:21 AM MB via extropy-chat<br>
<<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br>
(The<br>
> comment about the sodium overload is probably accurate though.)<br>
<br>
I suspect that sodium sensitivity is idiosyncratic. depends on what<br>
genes you have. In my case, going on low sodium causes my blood<br>
pressure to go up. (Or did some years ago.)<br>
<br>
Keith<br>
<br>
<br>
> Regards,<br>
> MB<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, June 2, 2023 12:40, efc--- via extropy-chat wrote:<br>
> > Fascinating!<br>
> ><br>
> > I only had beef fat fries in upscale restaurants, and it's good! As for<br>
> > McD, I also enjoy the occasional burger, but my recipe is only burger, no<br>
> > cola and no fries.<br>
> ><br>
> > But when it comes to the effect on my weight, I have no idea. I've always<br>
> > had a very high metabolism, and during vacation times I drop to only 2<br>
> > meals per day, and more sleep than usual so I tend to lose weight during<br>
> > my vacations.<br>
> ><br>
> > Best regards,<br>
> > Daniel<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Fri, 2 Jun 2023, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Back in the old days - when I was a kid - Mcdonalds cooked their fries<br>
> >> in beef fat (James Beard, the famous chef, said that beef<br>
> >> kidney fat was the best). Chefs said that they could not cook a better<br>
> >> fry than McDs. They changed in response to public pressure<br>
> >> to something else. I wonder if they ever changed back? bill w<br>
> >><br>
> >> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:57 AM Keith Henson via extropy-chat<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> If you read the story, it's no wonder that he lost weight.<br>
> >> Nothing<br>
> >> particularly wrong with McD food when you eat half of their<br>
> >> servings<br>
> >> or are an active teenager.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Early days of college I added up the intake of the four of us who<br>
> >> lived at the Druid Student Center. On 4500 calories a day, none<br>
> >> of us<br>
> >> were gaining weight. Marching in ROTC and running to class plus<br>
> >> weekend activities burned it off.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Yesterday, for the first time in 8 months, I got a large fries at<br>
> >> McD.<br>
> >> $6.01. Talk about inflation.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Keith<br>
> >><br>
> >> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 8:32 PM spike jones via extropy-chat<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Something doesn’t seem right about this story, but USAToday says<br>
> >> it is true. This guy ate only at McDonalds, claims he<br>
> >> lost 58 pounds in 100 days:<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > <a href="https://www.today.com/health/man-eating-only-mcdonalds-100-days-final-weight-loss-rcna87220" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.today.com/health/man-eating-only-mcdonalds-100-days-final-weight-loss-rcna87220</a><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Well then, OK. I personally like the tasty repast served up at<br>
> >> McDonalds, but I never claimed the dreadful swill is<br>
> >> health food. I like donuts too, but likewise, I don’t even<br>
> >> attempt to fool myself that it is nutritious.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > A number of years ago, McDonalds was sued by a teenager who<br>
> >> claimed that McDonalds made her fat. This was all the<br>
> >> fault of McDonalds, so they were liable donchaknow. That’s when<br>
> >> Ronald began offering salad on Happy McMenu, which of<br>
> >> course no one ever actually bought (for one does not go to<br>
> >> McDonalds for salad (nor to a donut shop.)) But Ronald offers<br>
> >> it, and McDonalds is not liable if their viands are so delectable<br>
> >> that it renders customers helpless to resist, resulting<br>
> >> in the silly proles devouring too much and growing into portly<br>
> >> young diabetics with clogged arteries. Well, imagine<br>
> >> that. It isn’t hard to do: these are well-known consequences of<br>
> >> eating too much McD’s and scarfing too many donuts.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Casting aside all caution and common sense, I devour the stuff<br>
> >> anyway. Just in moderate quantities.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > It has been long known that one can have a poor diet and still<br>
> >> lose weight, if the total calorie count is sufficiently<br>
> >> low.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Humans are such a fun species, I do hope that AI doesn’t cause<br>
> >> our brutal extinction.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > spike<br>
><br>
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