<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 1:43 PM efc--- via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
On Sat, 10 Jun 2023, Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat wrote:<br>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 2:55 PM efc--- via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> X, Y chromosomes and biological sexes and evolution are facts or the<br>
> currently best know explanation supported by science and experiment. Why<br>
> wouldn't you mention it? It has nothing to do with culture.<br>
> <br>
> Because some people have a cultural investment in that not being the explanation, science be damned.<br>
<br>
So? Let them. As long as they don't interfere with me</blockquote><div><br></div><div>That is precisely the problem: they wish to interfere with other people.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Eventually they will fade away if they reject science<br>
and technology.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>In theory. The concern is short term, while they have not yet faded away.</div><div><br></div><div>Further, they're trying to reap the benefits of technology while rejecting the realities of science. They'd be quite happy for themselves to live forever.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
If such a person becomes a dictator, they still cannot control the laws<br>
of physics, so eventually they will self destruct or the people will<br>
have a revolution and throw them out.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Given what they have control over, "self destruct" can include starting a nuclear war that many on this list would not survive. Extraordinary measures were taken to prevent this the last time one of them was in charge (and tried to be a dictator).</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
On a more peaceful level, there is always the option of working around a<br>
problem or moving away from the madmen.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>For too many of us, neither of those is an option. To where, exactly, would one move that would not suffer greatly from a nuclear war, even if no nuclear weapons directly impact that area? Also there's the practical question of, to where would most of us move where we could continue to be productive and effective, that is neither North America nor Europe, where many of said weapons would impact? The libertarian ideal of "just move away" requires some place to move to, and there is no place on Earth that is beyond sufficiently vengeful enforcement, nor will significant amounts of off-Earth habitation become available during the time period when the current iteration of the problem exists.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> But it is not about culture, it<br>
is about mad people and that has nothing to do with culture.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Even mad people have their own culture, mad as it is. </div></div></div>