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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat<br><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] reverse turing test (kinda)<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>>>…Something like this is how AI detection programs are trained, I believe… Adrian<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>…OK so which is better at AI detection? AI detection software or humans? Can we set up a contest …<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The problem has been recognized. AI-detection software is discriminatory against non-native English speakers according to Stanford HAI. We yankees have long known that it is always easy to tell a non-native English speaker: their English is better than the native. The non-native speaker has an advantage: they learned English from a text book and an English teacher. The native learned it from other 4 year olds on the playground.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This Stanford HAI study claims that AI-detection software is identifying text written by non-native carbon units as AI more than half the time:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://hai.stanford.edu/news/ai-detectors-biased-against-non-native-english-writers?utm_source=Stanford+HAI&utm_campaign=b77d978350-Mailchimp_HAI_Newsletter_June+2023_1&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_aaf04f4a4b-b77d978350-199837799">https://hai.stanford.edu/news/ai-detectors-biased-against-non-native-english-writers?utm_source=Stanford+HAI&utm_campaign=b77d978350-Mailchimp_HAI_Newsletter_June+2023_1&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_aaf04f4a4b-b77d978350-199837799</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Adrian you know what that means. Them furriners are whooping our yankee asses! We need to get with the program, set up a team to see whose country can fool AI-detection the most. I suspect the Indians are going to tough to beat in the AI Olympics.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>