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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/06/2023 16:39, bill w wrote:<br>
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biological machine and so is an amoeba. bill w</div>
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moving in the direction of giving human rights to
machines, I think it's wrong.</div>
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Are you not a biological machine?<br>
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So we can agree that the term 'machine' is irrelevant. All complex
systems that process energy and information can be called machines.<br>
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For a system to be intelligent, aware, and be awarded rights, it has
to be a machine, but not all machines can be aware, intelligent,
etc.<br>
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So it's not the fact of being a machine that's significant, it's
what kind of machine that matters.<br>
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By which I mean, how complex, and in what ways. I agree that giving
a lawn mower human rights would be nonsense, but there will
certainly be some AIs, at some point, that should have rights. We
almost certainly don't have such AIs yet, but we will.<br>
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Ben<br>
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