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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] [Extropolis] libertarians<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 3:26 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Well before the current front runner was making his breezy cultic speeches, we saw a comment by his opponent which included the phrase "...if the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money..."<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It looks like that is another debunked claim of Trump's.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_b45b04e0-8bd4-4d16-8040-18d0897185f0">https://www.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_b45b04e0-8bd4-4d16-8040-18d0897185f0</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrative-on-biden-and-ukraine/">https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrative-on-biden-and-ukraine/</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>At this point, most claims that Joe Biden acted illegally should be fact checked before being cited, because there have been so many false claims about that in the recent past…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Adrian, that quid pro quo comment was illegal. No need to mention any other politician in any other position, no need to reference international community (the guy who uttered the quid pro quo comment didn’t and doesn’t work for the international community.) It doesn’t matter if he was carrying out the policy of the then-POTUS because POTUS didn’t have that authority to make that demand either. Congress alone makes the call on international military aid, and that condition is nowhere to be found in the documentation that congress wanted a prosecutor fired.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So we are still stuck without a motive, for what is clearly an illegal act: gross abuse of power.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The FBI has suggested (in an inexplicably unclassified F-1023) a clear motive for that illegal act.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>To clarify: regardless of motive, demanding a foreign government’s prosecutor to be fired as condition of receiving international aid already approved by congress is illegal. It doesn’t matter what else, a VP does not have that authority, nor does POTUS. Congress makes that call. They didn’t. So… we are left with a blank on motive. The FBI has suggested one that looks pretty plausible to me. The IRS has seen money trails, but didn’t know (and still doesn’t) where those lead or why they exist.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>