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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>…</b>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Dougherty via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] [Extropolis] trump<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 2:55 AM Keith Henson via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 5:17 PM spike <br>I can't think of a time when anyone (besides me) posting on the<br>extropian list invoked an EP view. People talk about social and<br>political matters as if there was no deeper level.<br><br>Have humans been selected to reject understanding their evolved<br>psychological traits? Seems possible to me. <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>>…Re: deeper level - you may have noticed the length (and depth) of posts here (and in general) has decreased… btw, the length of this post feels too long as a single idea and too short to have properly developed multiple ideas into a full article. iiwii :) Mike Dougherty<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cool post Mike, well said.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I am trying to think of a good example on ExI where EP has been rejected or posts made from an opposing POV. I am coming up blank.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>EP suggests we are programmed genetically. I have long thought that, since way before I had any real explanation for how we got this way. The old time religion people had that intuition and came up with an explanation for the nature of humans: god made us that way after the original pair sinned. It really insisted, with the notion that humans are evil by nature.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I will accept the “by nature” part, but the evil part is a bit of a stretch. We are tuned to be competitive, sure. So… what’s evil about that? Sounds like fun to me. That’s where we get sports. War is evil, so we avoid that one, and take care of our instinctive attraction to that horrifying activity with harmless analogs. Enormous fortunes have been made on good war games. Our favorite sport is a terrain acquisition battle analog, complete with body armor, tactics, the works. My personal favorite game (chess) is a war analog, sora, with actual battle symbolism, knights, castles, etc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>What is an example of a rejection of evolutionary psychology?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Could be I don’t know enough about the subject.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>