<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 12:55 PM Kelly Anderson via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I doubt this is a new idea.<br>
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After reading the Scientific America article that was recently proffered...<br>
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Within history for the past few thousand years there has been an<br>
oscillation between unassailable walls and more and more terrible<br>
machines for breaching walls. When taken to its limit, the most<br>
unassailable wall in the universe is the event horizon of a black<br>
hole. Going through an event horizon, as I understand it, leads to a<br>
poor outcome for the invader. If, on the other hand, it were possible<br>
to engineer the collapse creating a black hole such that the matter<br>
initially creating the black hole maintained some kind of pattern,<br>
then one could conceptually collapse one's civilization into a black<br>
hole and thus create an unassailable wall the likes of which has never<br>
been seen in our history. Perhaps this is a partial answer to the<br>
Fermi Paradox, I know people have associated black holes with the<br>
paradox before, so nothing new there... but orbiting a black hole<br>
seems slightly different than creating a black hole with maintained<br>
patterns within... comments? Am I just missing some large part of<br>
physics here?<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This has been coined the "Transcension Hypothesis" by Jonathan Smart:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://alwaysasking.com/are-we-alone/#They_Leave_our_Universe">https://alwaysasking.com/are-we-alone/#They_Leave_our_Universe</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">JasonĀ </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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-Kelly<br>
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