<div dir="auto">If we're lucky, a universe tiled with conscious simulations of early 21st century humans asking these questions.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If we're not so lucky, a universe tiled with hashes of jpegs of smiling humans.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Evolution and selection pressures aren't in the driver's seat anymore. There nowhere near enough time remaining for that.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 30, 2023, 10:22 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">So my question is: since more highly talented people have fewer children will the IQ in a sense go down with time? I sometimes wonder about Jews - higher average than most (but not as high as people think) and their birthrate is low.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Does it follow that talent in the general population will diminish over time?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">We do know that birth rate goes down when life becomes better: better nutrition, better access to health care, and so on.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">What's the future? bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 8:37 AM BillK via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 13:27, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat<br>
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> When I first knew this there were no links. So for current opinion I asked Chat gpt3.5<br>
> Chat - high iq people have fewer kids<br>
> ChatGPT<br>
> The relationship between a person's intelligence quotient (IQ) and their family size is a complex and multifaceted one, and it's influenced by numerous factors including cultural, social, economic, and personal choices. Here are a few key points to consider:<br>
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> Educational and career aspirations: Some studies have suggested that individuals with higher IQs may be more likely to pursue higher education and career goals, which can delay the decision to have children. They may prioritize their careers and personal development before starting a family.<br>
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> Socioeconomic factors: Higher IQ is often associated with higher socioeconomic status, and individuals in higher income brackets tend to have fewer children. This could be due to factors like the cost of raising children and the desire to maintain a certain lifestyle.<br>
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I asked Claude AI, and it agreed but pointed out that the effect is<br>
more significant for women.<br>
Claude -<br>
High-IQ women tend to have fewer children than lower-IQ women.<br>
The difference is less consistent for men.<br>
Education levels, which correlate with IQ, also predict fertility.<br>
More educated women tend to have fewer children.<br>
The association is weaker for men.<br>
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This is implying that increased living standards, women's rights,<br>
education, incomes, etc. may be the fertility deciding factors.<br>
(With some correlation with IQ).<br>
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BillK<br>
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