<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 6, 2024, 12:39 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 9:20 AM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">I think you don't want it to be true.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If that's the case, well then you can't use reason to get out of a position which you did not use reason to get into.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You might wish to turn this claim around.</div><div><br></div><div>How badly do you want open individualism to be true?</div><div><br></div><div>Are you thinking about this possibility because it is the very situation you yourself are in, whether you fully realize it or not?</div><div><br></div><div>If you are certain it is not, how would you know that it is not?</div><div><br></div><div>I know it is not for me, because I can present logic and reasoning without logical fallacies to defend my position. It does not appear that you have been able to do this.</div><div><br></div><div>(For example, ad hominem attacks. You questioned if someone else doesn't want it to be true, to sidestep and ignore their point. Note that it takes more than just questioning the person to be ad hominem; see the definition at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem</a> to see why this letter is not itself this same fallacy even if it calls your reasoning into question.)</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">> "You might wish to turn this claim around."<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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