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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/01/2024 16:02, Keith Henson
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class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">That remark seems to imply you think that uploads would not interface
with the external world. I don't see why they wouldn't, and I'd
certainly expect they'd be able to if they wanted.
</pre></blockquote><pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">It depends on how much the uploads speed up. Interacting with the
external world would just not work for an upload running much faster
than real time.
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I think 'would just not work' is a bit of a stretch. I agree it
could be problematic, but surely not more than current people
planning and executing long-term projects.<br>
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Especially with the increased intelligence that we hope for and
expect, I'd think that this challenge wouldn't be insurmountable.
Especially for important things such as making sure your physical
infrastructure isn't degrading (or for upgrading it. I'm pretty sure
that would be an important consideration), collecting real-world
data to test against your theories, constructing mechanisms to test
them, protecting yourself/ves from threats like supernovae, suns
turning into red giants, galaxies colliding, etc., managing energy
supply issues... The obvious thing would be to put recurrent
reminders into your diary to check on the state of the outside
world, and your mechanisms for dealing with it, every few ten,
hundred or thousand subjective years, make the necessary
adjustments, then go back to what you were doing.<br>
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There's always the possibility of just changing your 'clock speed'
every so often. Although that would probably bring it's own
problems.<br>
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Anyway, I'm sure there will be solutions.<br>
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The dangerous (and probably far too easy) thing would be to retreat
into a fantasy world, and forget the real world even exists. One day
you'd just cease to exist without even knowing why.<br>
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Ben<br>
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