<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br><div>Hi Spike,</div><div>Your beliefs are hard to pin down.</div></div><div>First you say: "I do not wish to believe that thought is substrate dependent, and I don’t." (Yay! ;)</div><div>I'm wondering exactly what you mean with that "I don't"</div><div>then you seem to contradict your desires with:</div><div>"I hope not but think [swimming in endorphins] is likely." (I can relate to this.)</div><div><br></div><div>And it is fascinating that you express this as desire, rather than just stating factual beliefs, independent of any desires, like lots of people seem to try to do.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 10:34 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg5724306748780781520"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_5724306748780781520WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 8:54 AM BillK via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>…I have been musing on mariachi band experiences and I have doubts that<br>uploads will have experiences like humans… BillK<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">BillK I reluctantly agree. I do not wish to believe that thought is substrate dependent, and I don’t. But I am compelled to think that human emotion, as humans experience it, might require carbon-based meat brains, swimming in hormones and endorphins. I hope not, but think it is likely.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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