<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">I think that without a direct connection conversation between uploads is impossible. So telepathy is just as impossible with uploads as it is with physical people. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 7:26 AM BillK via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 at 00:38, Mike Dougherty via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span></span></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div dir="auto"></div><div dir="auto">I was going to let it go, but I do see this as a growing concern. We recently noted that bytes/message have been going down for years. The logical conclusion of this is that uploaded humans won't actually communicate with each other at all. In this case BillK's message was less than a tweet worth of snarcasm, a prompt for an AI answer, and the kind of insightful perspective WE used to be capable of producing.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What makes "human level AI" if humans evolve into simulation of wet bio completely isolated from this world by AR and assistive technology?<br></div><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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_______________________________________________<br><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">After some discussion, I have the feeling that these advances will need each other to progress together.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">AI seems to agree.</div></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">BillK<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">I asked -</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default"><span>Will research into mind uploading and AGI assist each other?</span></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default"><span><br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default"><span>AI answer -</span><p>Yes,
research into mind uploading and AGI (Artificial General Intelligence)
can and likely will assist each other in several ways. This mutual
assistance is driven by the shared goal of understanding and replicating
human intelligence, which is a complex and multifaceted challenge.
Here's how the research in these areas can complement and enhance each
other:</p></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default"><div><div><div name="answer-5"><div><div><div style="padding:0px 0px 1px"><div><div><h3>1. <b>Understanding Human Intelligence</b></h3></div><div><ul><li><b>Mind Uploading</b>: By attempting to upload human minds
to digital formats, researchers aim to understand the intricacies of
human consciousness and cognition. This process involves mapping the
brain's activity, identifying patterns of thought, and translating them
into digital form.</li><li><b>AGI Development</b>: AGI research seeks to create
systems that can perform any intellectual task that a human being can
do. This involves developing algorithms and systems that can learn,
reason, and understand in a way that mimics human intelligence.</li></ul></div><div><h3>2. <b>Technological Advancements</b></h3></div><div><ul><li><b>Mind Uploading</b>: The development of technologies for
scanning and translating brain activity can provide insights into the
physical and computational requirements for human intelligence. These
technologies could also serve as a foundation for AGI, offering a way to
model and simulate human cognition.</li><li><b>AGI Development</b>: The creation of AGI systems that
can perform complex tasks and learn from experience can provide a
benchmark for understanding human intelligence. It can also inspire new
approaches to mind uploading, such as developing digital substrates that
can host uploaded minds.</li></ul></div><div><h3>3. <b>Ethical and Philosophical Considerations</b></h3></div><div><ul><li><b>Mind Uploading</b>: The ethical and philosophical
questions surrounding the uploading of human minds are closely related
to those surrounding AGI. Both fields raise questions about the nature
of consciousness, the rights of individuals, and the implications for
society.</li><li><b>AGI Development</b>: The development of AGI systems
that can think and learn like humans raises similar ethical and
philosophical questions. Researchers in both fields are grappling with
the implications of creating systems that can mimic human intelligence.</li></ul></div><div><h3>4. <b>Resource Allocation and Prioritization</b></h3></div><div><ul><li><b>Mind Uploading</b>: The resources and focus of the
scientific community are often shared between these fields. Researchers
and organizations might prioritize one over the other based on perceived
urgency, ethical considerations, or technological feasibility.</li><li><b>AGI Development</b>: The development of AGI is a major
focus in the field of artificial intelligence, with significant
investments and research efforts. The progress in AGI can influence the
direction and prioritization of mind uploading research.</li></ul></div><div><h3>Conclusion</h3></div><div><p>The
research into mind uploading and AGI is interconnected, with each field
influencing and benefiting from the other. The shared goal of
understanding and replicating human intelligence drives the
collaboration between these areas. As both fields advance, they will
likely continue to assist each other, contributing to a deeper
understanding of human intelligence and paving the way for future
technological advancements.</p></div></div><div></div><div></div></div><div style="border-radius:50%"></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="min-height:30px">-------------------------------<br></div></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default"><span><br></span></div></div></div>
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