<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 5:57 PM Travis Porco via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Forgive me for delurking,</blockquote><div><br></div><div>No forgiveness needed. Welcome to the chat!</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> but perhaps the time has come to ask *how*<br>
to do an upload or upload-like activity right now, today, with<br>
existing technology...extracting enough memory and identity to<br>
generate an authorized continuing agent for yourself, without being<br>
distracted by worries about whether it is "really you" and so forth.<br>
As I follow these discussions I find the philosophical worries merely<br>
lead to inaction, and in some cases, contain elements dismissive of<br>
the value of lives.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well...there is one option with today's technology, but it'd be heck of impractically expensive for a human brain, though I hear something like this might be being done with insect brains.</div><div><br></div><div>Map out and simulate each neuron, one by one. Make a good enough (which likely requires near-perfect in practice) software simulation of the neuron, including its synapses (its inputs and outputs). Connect these neuron simulations together, in the exact same fashion as the actual neurons are connected. Run the whole thing on a powerful enough computer - which involves massive parallelism, even for insect simulations, thus the expense. There also needs to be blank/spare/extra hardware to simulate growth of new neurons over time (not as many as already exist in the running brain, but a nonzero amount, with a potentially indefinite cap if the simulated brain lives forever; more hardware can be added over time to support this, but this might put a cap on the practical maximum speed-up if the uploaded brain is to run significantly faster than the original).</div><div><br></div><div>This misses input from the rest of the body, but it's a start (and can help narrow down exactly what the rest of the body's inputs are).</div></div></div>