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    <p>This is unfortunately as impractical as Alcubierre's solution,
      and it is surprising it is getting airtime. It doesn't give us
      FTL, for one, whereas AFAIK this was already solved, even in our
      Universe?<br>
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    <p>Erik Lentz[0] seems to have most of the practicalities figured
      out, and is merely fighting with orders of magnitude--something we
      should be used to conquering here.</p>
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    <p>[0]: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2201.00652">https://arxiv.org/abs/2201.00652</a></p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/31/2024 6:25 PM, spike jones via
      extropy-chat wrote:<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org"><extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org></a> <b>On Behalf
              Of </b>Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] New Design of interstellar warp
            drive<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">>…You just need to get in and out of a
            hollow shell dense enough to be a black hole… Adrian<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">I’m sorry Dave.  I’m afraid I can’t do
            that.  Hal<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, May 31, 2024, 6:14 PM BillK via
              extropy-chat <<a
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            <p class="MsoNormal">A Groundbreaking Scientific Discovery
              Just Gave Humanity the Keys to<br>
              Interstellar Travel.<br>
              In a first, this warp drive actually obeys the laws of
              physics.<br>
              By Manasee Wagh    Published: May 29, 2024<br>
              <br>
              <<a
href="https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a60941082/light-speed-warp-drive-breakthrough/"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a60941082/light-speed-warp-drive-breakthrough/</a>><br>
              <br>
              The Alcubierre drive has a glaring problem: the force
              behind its<br>
              operation, called “negative energy,” involves exotic<br>
              particles—hypothetical matter that, as far as we know,
              doesn’t exist<br>
              in our universe. And faster-than-light travel is
              impossible.<br>
              <br>
              But a new proposal allows for up-to-light-speed warp
              drive. So, still<br>
              impossible at present, but researchers are hopeful.  :)<br>
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              Interesting article!<br>
              <br>
              BillK<br>
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