<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Would a ‘devil’s dictionary’ definition of addiction be ‘repetitive behavior you do not approve of’? And good habits would then be defined as ‘repetitive behavior you do approve of’? (Using ‘you’ rhetorically, of course.)</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Also, wouldn’t Cass Sunstein fans be all in favor of nudging kids away from this stuff? (I’m not a Cass Sunstein fan, but recall one person here going ga ga over him a few years ago.;)</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Regards,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Dan</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jun 21, 2024, at 6:11 AM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><br><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">What I meant by an addictive thing on the media site was just something that kept people on the site - not necessarily reading. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 7:33 AM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">It’s wrong to say that an addictive algorithm “keeps kids reading”, brcause the content they prefer is short form video. <div><br></div><div>Heavy introduction to video, especially short form, before learning to read, dramatically reduces interest in reading, especially long form content like books.</div><div><br id="m_197853212686765113lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">SR Ballard</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jun 20, 2024, at 4:34 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Check on the story about the NY governor signing legislation to protect children on media sites.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(12,12,12);font-family:cnn_sans_display;font-size:16px">“the most dangerous aspects of social media, the addictive algorithm feeds that exploit impressionable minds.” NY Attorney General</span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(12,12,12);font-family:cnn_sans_display">Is this saying that adults don't have impressionable minds?</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(12,12,12);font-family:cnn_sans_display"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#0c0c0c" face="cnn_sans_display">A marketing person would say that what is called 'addictive' means that it encourages the user to keep reading, for one thing. And that would be a good feature of the software. Calling it 'addictive' is misleading at best. Making the site attractive is what the site wants. Who knows what will result in addiction (if there is such a thing). How is that different from liking it a lot?</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#0c0c0c" face="cnn_sans_display"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#0c0c0c" face="cnn_sans_display">I am all for requiring parents to OK downloads and for privacy issues - of course. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#0c0c0c" face="cnn_sans_display"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#0c0c0c" face="cnn_sans_display">Go back in time 50 years. Tell a grocer to put a cart at the end of an aisle, put products into it along with the usual price. People will think it's on sale. Is this ethical? Can't we use psychology?</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#0c0c0c" face="cnn_sans_display"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#0c0c0c" face="cnn_sans_display">bill w</font></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></body></html>