<div dir="auto"><div>As usual with articles written like this, the meat of the proof far underperformed what is claimed.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">One specific, simplified form of determinism was counterproven, not all forms of determinism.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 20, 2024, 6:15 AM BillK via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hidden variable alternative to quantum spookiness fails<br>
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Do we actually live in a deterministic Universe, despite quantum<br>
physics?<br>
An alternative, non-spooky interpretation has now been ruled out.<br>
Ethan Siegel   September 19, 2024<br>
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<<a href="https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/hidden-variable-quantum-spookiness/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/hidden-variable-quantum-spookiness/</a>><br>
Quotes:<br>
>From Newton through Maxwell, every particle and interaction known<br>
seemed to obey a deterministic set of equations, but the discovery of<br>
radioactivity and quantum physics quickly changed all that.<br>
In quantum physics, you can only predict the probability distribution<br>
of a set of possible outcomes, with an actual measurement required to<br>
tell you which outcome has actually occurred.<br>
One interpretation of quantum physics, Bohmian mechanics, involves<br>
hidden variables and seeks to do away with quantum spookiness<br>
entirely. Its one measurable prediction just failed.<br>
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Quantum physics remains really 'spooky', whether you like it or not!  :)<br>
BillK<br>
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