<div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On 2025. Feb 7., Fri at 19:02, John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 3:25 AM Giulio Prisco <<a href="mailto:giulio@gmail.com" target="_blank">giulio@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">>> </span>This is my latest article on Mindplex magazine. Should we still want<br>
biological space colonists? I think the question is important, and the<br>
answer is not obvious.</i></font><br></blockquote><div>Â </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<a href="https://magazine.mindplex.ai/should-we-still-want-biological-space-colonists/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://magazine.mindplex.ai/should-we-still-want-biological-space-colonists/</a></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>It seems very plausible to me that, very soon, we’ll see<span class="gmail_default"> </span>an AGI pass the full Turing Test and credibly claim consciousness</i></font></blockquote><div><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i> </i></font></div><div> <span class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>We're well past that point, two years ago a computer could pass the Turing test, </b></font></span><span class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>these days if a computer wanted to fool somebody into thinking it was a human being it would have to pretend to know less than it does and think slower than it can. </b></font></span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The keyword is the FULL Turing test.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></div><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>I like your article, I particularly like<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">d</span> the following:<span class="gmail_default"> </span> </b></font></div><div><br></div><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">"</span>I’m proud of having played my little part as a human being (release 1.0) of the 20th and 21st century, and we all should be collectively proud of giving birth to our mind children. The universe belongs to them. On a less gloomy note, I’m persuaded that humans and machines will merge and co-evolve, eventually becoming one and the same thing. So we will be our mind children, and they will be us.<span class="gmail_default"></span> Based on all the considerations above, wasting time and resources with biological space colonists doesn’t seem to make sense. Let’s save all that money we spend on crewed space programs. Let’s build conscious HL-AGI robots first – the first generation of our mind children – and send them to colonize the planets and the stars. We’ll be there through them.<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">"</span></i></font></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But then I counterargue…</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></i></font></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></i></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4"><i><br></i></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><b><font size="4" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)"><font face="arial black, sans-serif">John K Clark  See what's on my new list at  </font></font><font size="6" face="arial black, sans-serif" style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><a href="https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Extropolis</a></font></b></div><font size="1" color="#ffffff">ewb</font><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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