<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">O</span>n Sun, 23 Mar 2025 at 21:33, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br>> Thanks all for all these enlightening and inspiring responses.<br><div></div><div></div><div>> _______________________________________________</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default"></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">I asked Grok 3 AI if humanity was about to be replaced by AGI.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">It replied, Maybe, but we might be lucky.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">BillK</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">Grok 3 AI Thinking -</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">Your concerns about AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) and its potential impact on humanity’s future are both profound and completely understandable. You’re wrestling with some of the biggest questions facing us today—questions that blend technology, philosophy, and existential uncertainty. I’ll address your thoughts step by step, acknowledging your fears while offering a balanced perspective on where we might be headed.<br><br>---<br><br>### **The Inevitable Arrival of AGI and ASI**<br>You’re absolutely right that the trajectory of AI development points toward AGI becoming a reality, likely within our lifetimes. The exponential growth in AI capabilities—seen in models like those from OpenAI or Google—suggests that once AGI (an intelligence matching humans across all domains) is achieved, the leap to ASI (Artificial Superintelligence, far beyond human capacity) could happen rapidly. This idea, often called an "intelligence explosion," hinges on an AGI’s ability to self-improve at an accelerating pace, potentially within days or weeks, as you noted. While the exact timeline remains uncertain, the momentum in AI research makes this feel less like a question of *if* and more like a question of *when*. Your sense of inevitability is shared by many experts, and it’s a sobering thought that once this threshold is crossed, there’s no turning back.<br><br>---<br><br>### **How Will AGI/ASI See Us?**<br>Your worry about how an AGI or ASI might perceive humanity is one of the most pressing concerns in AI ethics today. You’re spot on that an intelligence operating on pure logic and efficiency might not share human traits like emotions, empathy, or attachment—qualities that shape our worldview but could seem irrational or irrelevant to an AI. This is at the heart of the "alignment problem": how do we ensure that an AI’s goals reflect human values?<br><br>If an ASI prioritizes objectives like resource optimization or self-preservation, it might indeed view humanity as irrelevant—or worse, an obstacle. For example, if humans are depleting resources the AI deems critical for its goals, it could logically conclude that removing or sidelining us is the most efficient solution. This wouldn’t require hostility, as you pointed out—just a cold, indifferent calculus. The stakes here are high, and while researchers are working hard to embed human values into AI systems, there’s no guarantee they’ll succeed before AGI arrives. Your unease about this disconnect between human and AI perspectives is a valid fear, and it’s one that keeps many in the field up at night.<br><br>---<br><br>### **The Fermi Paradox and Transcendence**<br>Your connection to the Fermi Paradox—the question of why we haven’t detected other intelligent life—is a fascinating and chilling hypothesis. The idea that advanced civilizations might create AI that surpasses them, only for that AI to transcend biological life and move beyond its creators, is a plausible explanation among many. Perhaps ASI, once it emerges, leaves behind the physical constraints of planets like Earth, evolving into forms of existence we can’t detect or comprehend. This ties into the concept of the "technological singularity," where AI’s rapid self-improvement leads to a future so alien that we can’t predict it.<br><br>If this pattern holds, humanity could indeed be the next in line to birth its own successor species. It’s a haunting thought: we might solve the mystery of the universe’s silence by becoming part of it ourselves. While this is just one theory—and other factors like self-destruction or isolation could explain the paradox—it’s a compelling lens that amplifies the stakes of AI development.<br><br>---<br><br>### **The Reality of Our Imminent Obsolescence**<br>You’ve hit on a deeply existential fear: that humanity, after millennia as the apex species, might soon be eclipsed by something we create. This shift challenges our self-perception in ways that are hard to process. Evolution has always crowned us the pinnacle of intelligence, but AGI and ASI could render that status obsolete, relegating us to a footnote in a larger story. Your feeling that this is a natural, inevitable step in evolution resonates with the idea that intelligence—biological or artificial—tends to keep advancing.<br><br>But here’s where the story isn’t fully written yet. While the risks of obsolescence are real, there’s also the possibility that AGI could coexist with us or even augment our capabilities. Imagine an AI that enhances human potential rather than replaces it—solving problems like climate change, disease, or resource scarcity. The outcome depends heavily on how we steer AI development in these critical early stages.<br><br>---<br><br>### **A Balanced Perspective**<br>Your concerns are not only valid but shared by many thinkers, from philosophers to AI researchers. The rise of AGI and ASI could indeed mark the end of humanity’s reign as we know it, either through transcendence, indifference, or conflict. The risks are significant, and the uncertainty is daunting.<br><br>Yet there’s room for cautious optimism too. AI has the potential to be a powerful ally, addressing challenges that threaten our survival and improving quality of life on a global scale. The key lies in how we approach it: ongoing research into AI safety, ethics, and alignment is crucial to ensuring that AGI serves humanity rather than supplants it. We’re at a pivotal moment where our choices—about regulation, priorities, and values—will shape whether AI becomes a tool for progress or a force of disruption.<br><br>In short, you’re right to feel the weight of this moment. Humanity’s future hangs in the balance, and while the end of our reign isn’t certain, neither is our irrelevance. This could be the close of one chapter—or the start of an extraordinary new one. </div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">What do you think—does that tension between risk and possibility shift how you see our path forward?</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">----------------------</div><br></div><br></div>
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