<p dir="ltr">Marsr is a real story science fiction story</p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 13, 2025, 4:35 AM John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 2:47 AM Keith Henson <</span><a href="mailto:hkeithhenson@gmail.com" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">hkeithhenson@gmail.com</a><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">> wrote:</span></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<a href="http://hplusmagazine.com/2012/04/12/transhumanism-and-the-human-expansion-into-space-a-conflict-with-physics/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><i>http://hplusmagazine.com/2012/04/12/transhumanism-and-the-human-expansion-into-space-a-conflict-with-physics/</i></a></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>That link doesn't work<span class="gmail_default">.</span></b></font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i><font face="georgia, serif" size="4">
<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>The structures (if they are structures) are 1.5 light seconds across.<br>
That implies that their subjective perception of time is about the<br>
same as we use .</font></i><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>I don't think it's as simple as that for two reasons:<span class="gmail_default"> </span></b></font></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>1) The maximum time it takes to send a message from one side of the brain to the other is NOT the only factor, another factor that is just as important if not more so is the bandwidth of that message channel; and for Mr. Jupiter Brain that bandwidth would be many billions or trillions of times wider than any biological brain has.</b></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>2) Mr. Jupiter Brain wouldn't need to use His entire brain for simple tasks, such as finding the integral of a 4D tensor equation, He would probably not be consciously aware of the steps He used to find it nor would He need to be, for Him the answer would just be intuitively obvious. In the same way a baseball player is not consciously aware of the steps his brain used to figure out the split second when he should start to swing his bat, he swung it when his intuition told him the time was right. </b></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><i style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font face="georgia, serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>(again if there are any aliens)</font></i></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>The events of the last two years<span class="gmail_default"> have made me even more convinced that ET doesn't exist, if he did we'd know by now. </span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default"> John K Clark</span></b></font></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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