<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 1:27 PM Keith Henson <<a href="mailto:hkeithhenson@gmail.com">hkeithhenson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 9:59 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat<br>
<<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote: <br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> I've read such a story. I forget the author, but it could be the same story you're thinking of.<br>
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Egg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Egg</a></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That's the one.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landauer%27s_principle" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landauer%27s_principle</a><br>
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Landauer's principle states that the minimum energy needed to erase<br>
one bit of information is proportional to the temperature at which the<br>
system is operating.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This rules out computers being made out of gas and plasma, how? </div><div><br></div><div>Maybe they would need to use a lot more energy. The Sun's temperature is around 15 million Kelvin, vs. room temperature being a few hundred Kelvin, so maybe a bit less than 100,000 times as much as a computer on Earth. Being literally inside the Sun, abundant energy would be available - more than 100,000 times what is available on Earth.</div></div></div>