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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/04/2025 05:53, Anton Sherwood
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<pre>On 2025-04-22 13:47, Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat wrote:
<blockquote type="cite" style="color: #007cff;">The level of technology that we're envisaging should be easily capable
of recreating a brain from the recorded information. Not that I see that
as being a very good option. There will surely be better physical
systems that could serve to embody an upload. I'm thinking along the
lines of utility fog brains and bodies, but there will be other options
too, I'd think.
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How much thought has been given to operating systems for fog?
I can't see controlling foglets directly with my mind!
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Not directly, of course not, but indirectly. We already control
around 30 trillion biological cells. Obviously not with your
conscious mind, and not directly, but the same kind of heirarchical
control would probably be suitable for foglets. There's really no
limit to how complex a system can get (apart from fundamental
physical contraints) if you use heirarchies of control. We don't
control even relatively 'simple' actions like walking and talking
(not actually simple at all), directly with our conscious minds, and
things that are actually fairly simple, like regulating heartbeat,
are not controlled directly by our conscious minds either.
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<blockquote type="cite" style="color: #007cff;">[...] It could well be that shortly
after being uploaded, people would change so much that downloading again
would be impractical, and creating a new, synthetic brain/body would be
the only practical solution.
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The division of our brains into lobes presumably limits long-range
neuronal links, and I wonder whether that limitation helps us.
Uploading into a "flat space", in which such speedbumps are erased, is
one way to make a mind not fit into the old mold.
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I don't think so. Even at the sluggish speeds our axons work at,
communication within the brain isn't really limited by its
architecture, as far as I know. We even cope with ridiculous
inefficiencies like the recurrent laryngeal nerve, where the brain's
control of the larynx goes via a great big loop around the heart.
Doesn't seem to inconvenience opera singers. I can't speak for
giraffes, though!<br>
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Ben</pre>
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