<div dir="auto">Yes. See what you, personally, can do or contribute - and what you are interested in contributing - in both cases, keeping it to effective contributions.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">No one cares about opinion, screens, manifestos, or the like, so don't do those. Bans won't stop enough people to matter - they'd need to stop everyone, which they won't - so don't waste your time arguing or lobbying for those.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If there is an AI system that you think should exist, make it. Learn the skills you need and then create at least a prototype.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Or if, like me, you can best contribute in some other way, do that instead.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The Extropian movement was never solely about AI. The importance of AI does not mean that all resources must be dedicated solely to AI, no more than any one topic can ever justify deresourcing everything else.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 27, 2025, 1:29 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="m_-3488291147218620452WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Darin, it just seems wrong: we in this forum have been discussing AI for over three decades (more than that really but I have only been reading it for 30 yrs) and yet… right when everything starts to happen, all the things we foresaw and discussed long ago are happening real time… we don’t know what to do. We may have a few lame insights, but we don’t know what to do, any more than the rest of the yahoos who showed up last week. All that insightful discussion, and we don’t know what to do. Does anyone here know what the heck to do?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Darin Sunley via extropy-chat<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 27 May, 2025 10:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Darin Sunley <<a href="mailto:dsunley@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dsunley@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Is AI about to take off fast?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Nothing ever happens, and nothing will continue to ever happen, until something suddenly happens.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">1913 seemed like a perfectly normal year.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, May 24, 2025, 6:50 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Like basically all articles with this sort of question for a title, the answer is "no".<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Why do people bother writing articles like this when they are basically, and so predictably, always wrong?<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, May 24, 2025 at 2:29<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>AM Giulio Prisco via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">Is AI about to take off fast? 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