<div dir="auto">It’s both, and they both dragged their perspective of the center towards them, so everybody is an extremist and hates centrists now.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I will submit though that the difference is that the extreme liberal view has become far more mainstream, like the very conservative view was about 70 or so years ago (red scare &c). </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Fwiw I think it’s all pretty much made up and just a distraction while we have our wealth and autonomy eroded from all sides, and while the quality of everything (food, water, air, housing, tools) continues to decline, which is another form of the aforementioned wealth erosion</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 11:06 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">Regarding the comic about liberals vs. conservatives in the post: it is blatantly the other way around.<div><br></div><div>The most prominent public conservatives didn't advocate for deporting all non-whites without due process, among several other positions that have come to prominence in the past decade or two. There have long been questions whether affirmative action goes too far, becoming reverse racism in effect; I recall concerns about that back in the 1980s.<div><br></div><div>One thing that has changed is the degree to which conservatives embrace Big Lies. In many cases, if conservatives loudly accuse liberals of some bad or extreme act, it's because the conservatives are trying to deflect attention from their doing the same thing worse. Claiming "but the liberals changed and shunned most people" is one such thing, given the evidence of mainstream views - and thus, the situation for most people (regardless of the possible scenarios for individuals) - becoming more liberal over time.</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 10:03 AM Giulio Prisco via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">The Case of the Sexual Cosmos, by Howard Bloom. A riveting tale of<br>
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