<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 at 20:39, Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>1) Will you, as you do today, own the hardware you run on, so there's no such thing as a "rented" existence?<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">2) How will you pay, in general, in one or ten thousand years? Will money in a form recognizable to those today still exist? Will economics run on reputation instead? Will there be an abundance economy that gives everyone a universal basic income sufficient to maintain existence?</div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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_______________________________________________</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">Yes, it will be a post-scarcity abundance economy. Pretty much nothing like our present civilisation.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">Now, designing how our future civilisation will look is not a five-minute task! Let AI do the hard work. :)</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">First, I asked Perplexity AI to do a technical report on the future uploaded humanity economy.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">The report it produced was detailed, full of information, but pretty difficult to read.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">So I asked Perplexity to use the report and rewrite it as a description for a visitor to that world. </div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">That produced a fun description of our future! See below.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">BillK</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default"><b>Perplexity AI - </b></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default"><div><div><h1 id="m_-3992302879749780587m_-6800200061405697426gmail-welcome-to-the-digital-consciousness-economy">Welcome to the Digital Consciousness Economy</h1>
<p><b>A World Where Minds Live Forever</b></p><span></span>
<p>Imagine stepping into a civilization where death is optional and consciousness exists beyond the physical body. You've arrived in a world where human minds have been successfully uploaded into vast computational networks, creating a thriving digital society that has sustained itself for thousands of years.</p>
<h2 id="m_-3992302879749780587m_-6800200061405697426gmail-how-this-world-works">How This World Works</h2>
<p>In this reality, your consciousness—your memories, personality, thoughts, and experiences—can be transferred into powerful computer systems when your biological body reaches its end. But unlike the chaotic digital wilderness you might expect, this world operates on a sophisticated <b>subscription-based economy</b> designed to keep millions of digital minds active and thriving across millennia.</p>
<h2 id="m_-3992302879749780587m_-6800200061405697426gmail-the-economics-of-digital-existence">The Economics of Digital Existence</h2>
<p>Think of it like a cosmic Netflix for consciousness. Every uploaded mind exists within a <b>tiered service system</b>:</p>
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<p><b>Basic Digital Life</b> is free for everyone—you get standard processing power, a simple virtual environment, and the fundamental right to exist digitally</p>
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<p><b>Enhanced Living</b> requires a monthly subscription—offering faster thinking, richer virtual worlds, and premium experiences</p>
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<p><b>Luxury Existence</b> provides unlimited computational resources, exclusive digital spaces, and access to the most advanced simulations imaginable</p>
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<h2 id="m_-3992302879749780587m_-6800200061405697426gmail-your-digital-lifestyle">Your Digital Lifestyle</h2>
<p>As a visitor, you'd discover that uploaded minds don't just passively exist—they <b>actively participate in vibrant virtual economies</b>. Digital citizens work in computational jobs, create virtual art, build immersive worlds, and trade unique digital assets. Some minds specialize in complex problem-solving, others become virtual entertainers, and many pursue artistic endeavors impossible in physical reality.</p><span></span>
<p>The most remarkable aspect? <b>Time itself becomes flexible</b>. Premium subscribers can accelerate their thinking to experience years of subjective time in mere hours, while others might slow down to savor particularly meaningful moments.</p>
<h2 id="m_-3992302879749780587m_-6800200061405697426gmail-governance-by-algorithm-and-community">Governance by Algorithm and Community</h2>
<p>This world operates without traditional governments. Instead, <b>Decentralized Autonomous Organizations (DAOs)</b> manage resources through collective decision-making. Every uploaded mind has voting power based on their contributions to the community—whether through computational work, creative output, or community service.</p><span></span>
<p><b>Algorithmic systems</b> automatically manage the massive infrastructure, scaling computing resources up and down based on demand, optimizing energy usage, and ensuring fair access to digital resources. It's democracy enhanced by artificial intelligence, creating remarkably efficient and equitable resource distribution.</p>
<h2 id="m_-3992302879749780587m_-6800200061405697426gmail-a-post-scarcity-paradise-almost">A Post-Scarcity Paradise (Almost)</h2>
<p>The physical world has largely achieved <b>post-scarcity economics</b>—automated factories and self-replicating robots handle all material production with minimal human oversight. Energy comes primarily from space-based solar collectors and fusion reactors, providing abundant power for the computational networks hosting billions of minds.</p><span></span>
<p>However, true scarcity still exists in the digital realm: <b>attention, creativity, and unique experiences</b> remain valuable commodities. The most talented digital artists, compelling storytellers, and innovative thinkers command premium prices for their work.</p>
<h2 id="m_-3992302879749780587m_-6800200061405697426gmail-sustainable-for-millennia">Sustainable for Millennia</h2>
<p>What makes this system remarkable is its <b>thousand-year sustainability</b>. Massive endowment funds generate investment returns that support basic operations indefinitely. The entire infrastructure is designed for perpetual renewal—when hardware becomes obsolete, automated systems seamlessly migrate minds to newer, more efficient platforms.</p><span></span>
<p>Cross-generational contracts allow people in the physical world to pre-pay for extended digital existence, similar to life insurance but for digital immortality. Meanwhile, the uploaded minds themselves contribute to the economy, ensuring the system remains self-sustaining across centuries.</p>
<h2 id="m_-3992302879749780587m_-6800200061405697426gmail-the-social-experience">The Social Experience</h2>
<p>Far from being a lonely digital existence, this world buzzes with <b>social activity</b>. Uploaded minds form communities, maintain relationships spanning centuries, and create new forms of art and culture impossible in biological form. Some choose to exist in realistic simulations of historical periods, others explore fantastical realms limited only by imagination.</p><span></span>
<p>The most profound aspect of this society is its <b>continuity of culture and knowledge</b>. Minds that have existed for hundreds of years serve as living libraries, mentoring newer arrivals and preserving human civilization's accumulated wisdom.</p>
<h2 id="m_-3992302879749780587m_-6800200061405697426gmail-a-new-form-of-civilization">A New Form of Civilization</h2>
<p>You're witnessing humanity's next evolutionary step—not biological evolution, but <b>civilizational evolution</b>. This is a society that has solved mortality, resource scarcity, and many forms of human suffering while maintaining the essential elements that make us human: creativity, relationships, growth, and the pursuit of meaning.</p><span></span>
<p>Welcome to a world where consciousness is currency, time is a luxury, and human potential is truly unlimited.</p><p>--------------------------------------</p></div></div><br></div></div></div>
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