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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Seemingly Conscious AI Is Coming<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 18/09/2025 23:46, Adrian Tymes wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>>>….Spike, given how your brain works, and given as you know that porn has<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>led the commercialization of a lot of tech over the decades (such as<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>contributing to VHS winning over Betamax), I have to ask: does this<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>thread's title inspire any thoughts..<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>>…Thanks, Adrian, for making me snort coffee all over my keyboard!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thanks Ben. That one went right over my head. Then I think I posted something to demonstrate that Adrian slipped that one past me for several days. I am not as up to speed on hipster sex terminology as you younger fellers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>But this is how stuff like this happens: time jokes. They soak in for days, weeks, even months. Then later… the punchline punches. Sometimes it occurs to me long after the fact. San Jose airport, early, waiting for a flight, other passengers milling about, passing by. Adrian’s post or one like it, perhaps months later, I’m not even reading or looking at a phone, just sitting, alone, thinking. Suddenly I get it: BWAAAAAAhahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa… AHHHHHahahahaaaaa…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Mirth settles. I look around. Airport pedestrians are quietly steering a wide path around me, veering away, crowding to the opposite wall…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>OK, that is embarraskin. But it was worth it. {8^D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 18/09/2025 23:46, spike wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>If human-like thought processes can be simulated in<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>silicon, they will be. If anyone can build it, someone will eventually. If<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>human thought is not substrate dependent, human thought will reside in a<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>processor of some kind, eventually.<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>But spike, don't you realise, that will just be a <i>simulation</i>!!1!<br>It won't be real human thought, just a pale, unsatisfactory imitation that will be exactly the same. Except that, like the storm simulation, <i>it won't be wet</i>. Inside the computer.<br><br>Oh My Cat (I don't have a Dog), it will be a zombie! Even worse, a DRY zombie!<br>(cue Stable Diffusion rendering of a laptop on robotic legs, with an image of a decomposing, dessicated Max Headroom on the screen, shuffling after fleeing, screaming humans, extending its ghostly utility-fog claws, muttering "Brainzzz! Wet Brainzzzz!!")<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>> human thought will reside in a processor of some kind, eventually.<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal>Human thought already exists in a processor of some kind. We call it a brain. <o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Ben<o:p></o:p></pre></div></body></html>