<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Sat, Oct 4, 2025 at 7:19 AM <</span><a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">spike@rainier66.com</a><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang="EN-US"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><font face="georgia, serif"><i> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>The US government has already run out of other people’s money and is now having to borrow other people’s money</i></font></span></b></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b style="">The very concept of <span class="gmail_default" style="">"</span>money<span class="gmail_default" style="">" is about to be radically changed and so is the concept of "the US government". </span></b></font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><i style=""><font face="georgia, serif">By the time that fund is paid off in about 9 years<span class="gmail_default" style="">....</span></font></i></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:18px"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>9 years<span class="gmail_default" style="">?! We are now living in the age of AI and 9 years is a virtual geological age. I don't feel comfortable making an economic prediction about what things will be like in 9 months, never mind 9 years. </span></b></font></span></div><div><span style="font-size:18px"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><br></span></b></font></span></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>I take that back, I do feel comfortable making one economic prediction, in 9 years the total productivity of this planet will be ENORMOUSLY greater than it is now. But I make no prediction about what will be controlling that astronomically huge newly generated wealth, I hope not but<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>it's entirely possible that in 9 years events will have proven that Eliezer was right.</b></font><br><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><b><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>I live in a city which has a version of UBI: our local food bank is well stocked and sustained by volunteers.</b></i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>I'm not talking about that,<span class="gmail_default" style=""> I'm talking about everybody automatically receiving enough money to have a comfortable upper middle-class lifestyle. And yes if I made that suggestion a few years ago you would be entirely justified in calling it idiotic, but these days not so much. I'm talking about the impending Singularity, and that renders old style political debates obsolete. We are rapidly entering an era where a machine can perform ANY job better than ANY Human, so if biological humans are to survive, what is the alternative to UBI?</span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="">John K Clark </span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><br></span></b></font></div><div><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:18px"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></span></div><div><br></div></div></div>
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