<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 11:21 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>how much energy would be needed to run 200,000<br>AI systems each more powerful than any we now have?</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>That depends on how efficient the agents are, with AI distillation they can be pretty efficient. And much more energy is needed for training than for inference, so 200,000 identical agents all running at the same time is not out of the question if you<span class="gmail_default" style="">'re</span> willing to devote a sizable percentage of the nation's electrical capacity to th<span class="gmail_default" style="">e</span> task; and if America's politicians want to keep ahead of China, and they certainly will, then that is exactly what<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">'s</span> going to happen.</b></font><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4"><b style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span></b><i style=""><font face="georgia, serif">We're not even at<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>Kardashian level one yet! </font></i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>True but<span class="gmail_default" style=""></span> you have a pretty good chance of living to see that, provided <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">M</span>r. Jupiter <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">B</span>rain doesn't kill <span class="gmail_default" style="">us all</span> first.<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span> </b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">John K Clark</font></span><br></b></font></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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