<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">Well, John, who will 'oil the machines'? AIs will make mistakes from small and inconsequential, all the way up to taking over. Who or what is going to oversee the AIs and catch the mistakes? Will the truth be an average of what the AIs think? In what circumstance will humans be needed to rewrite the software?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">No AI that will ever exist can accurately predict all the ramifications ofAI actions. All an AI can do is hope that conditions remain much the same as they are now. That will sometimes be wrong. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000000">I do acknowledge that people below the mean IQ are going to be superfluous. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 8:08 AM John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 8:51 AM <<a href="mailto:efc@disroot.org" target="_blank">efc@disroot.org</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>As long as there will be human desires, there will be jobs.</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>No there will not be<span class="gmail_default">, not when a machine can perform your job, my job, everybody's job much much better than any human can, and that is going to happen. </span>And I'm not talking about a millennium, I'm not even talking about a decade.<span class="gmail_default"> </span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default">John K Clark</span></b></font></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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On Tue, 7 Oct 2025, John Clark via extropy-chat wrote:<br>
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> How do people around here feel about free trade? When I first joined this list in 1993 nearly every member was a passionate advocate<br>
> of free trade including me, but I get the impression that is no longer the case; certainly He Who Must Not Be Named is about as far<br>
> from being a free trade advocate as it's possible to be. Even the AI revolution hasn't caused me to change my opinion about free<br>
> trade but Universal Basic Income is a different matter; back then I would've argued that the idea was completely impractical and I<br>
> would have been correct, but even then I knew that eventually something like it would have to be implemented, however I figured it<br>
> was so far in the future I didn't need to think very deeply about it. But the time has come. <br>
> <br>
> Have the amazing developments in AI during the last five years caused anybody else to change any of their economic opinions?<br>
> <br>
> John K Clark <br>
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Hello John,<br>
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No, certainly not me. Free trade good, UBI bad. As long as there will be <br>
human desires, there will be jobs.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
Daniel<br>
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