<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 12, 2025, 5:14 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Sun, Oct 12, 2025 at 2:35 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat<br>
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> Somehow, the creator of the universe who set everything up super-deterministically knew I would decide to use the digits of Pi<br>
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No such knowledge is necessary. It may be that you were destined to<br>
use those digits, but just like we can't always know how long a<br>
Turing-style program will run, that you would use those digits may not<br>
be knowable without a chain of computation that...well, the universe<br>
itself may have been the fastest possible chain of computation to<br>
achieve said knowledge.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'm sorry I am not following. How is it you are proposing the universe rigs up the photons to have the right polarizations to provide the expected statistics, when setting the polarizer filters to match the digits of sqrt(19)?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jason </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Then there are the things that truly are random, that don't become<br>
determined before they exist. No foreknowledge is possible, but also,<br>
they are not in a superposition: they are one state or another from<br>
the moment they happen, even if nearby observers might not know which<br>
until later.<br>
<br>
Same objections to all your other claims of required foreknowledge.<br>
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