<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 12, 2025, 1:29 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 12:44 PM Jason Resch <<a href="mailto:jasonresch@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jasonresch@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 12:37 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 12:29 PM Jason Resch <<a href="mailto:jasonresch@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jasonresch@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > I think Bill's conversation shows this is not some kirk of my description of superdeterminism, but a core part of superdeterminism.<br>
>><br>
>> As superdeterminism is not mentioned at all in that conversation, this<br>
>> conclusion does not follow from that particular data.<br>
><br>
> I was referring to Bill's original conversation with the AI on superdeterminism:<br>
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> <a href="https://www.kimi.com/share/19a6fcce-a8a2-8623-8000-0000e0a140f6" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.kimi.com/share/19a6fcce-a8a2-8623-8000-0000e0a140f6</a><br>
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Which, as previously mentioned, starts with the assertion that "most<br>
physicists reject it".<br>
<br>
If you start a conversation with AI with such assertions, the AI's<br>
answer will generally agree with such assertions. This does not help<br>
determine whether the assertions are true.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regardless of an initial bias, the AI used similar descriptions as I did, e.g. using the term "conspiratorial." Such a description was not provided by Bill, the AI thought that was the best term to use to describe what the theory implies.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Given that, do you consider my issues with superdeterminism to be idiosyncratic? Or do you now see that this is a common critique people give for rejecting superdeterminism?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jason </div></div>