<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 12, 2025, 3:33 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 2:06 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat<br>
<<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025, 1:29 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> If you start a conversation with AI with such assertions, the AI's<br>
>> answer will generally agree with such assertions. This does not help<br>
>> determine whether the assertions are true.<br>
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> Regardless of an initial bias, the AI used similar descriptions as I did, e.g. using the term "conspiratorial." Such a description was not provided by Bill, the AI thought that was the best term to use to describe what the theory implies.<br>
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> Given that, do you consider my issues with superdeterminism to be idiosyncratic? Or do you now see that this is a common critique people give for rejecting superdeterminism?<br>
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Given that you're either missing or ignoring my point again, I think<br>
it is time to end this branch of the discussion, as I did earlier with<br>
another poster. You're not convincing me, and I'm not convincing you.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Note: I am not trying to convince you I am right.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I only seek to settle the question of whether you think I am alone in raising this particular critique, or if you will acknowledge that this is a common (if not the main) critique that is leveled against superdeterminism.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you acknowledge that I am not alone in my thinking, then I at least can rest easy with the knowledge that you don't think I was crazy for raising the point I raised (or at least, if I am crazy, that I am in some good company).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jason </div></div>