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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/11/2025 23:17, spike wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> extropy-chat <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org"><extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Clark via extropy-chat
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style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">And after I've read the following article I<span
class="gmaildefault">'m</span> beginning to think he might be right, the US certainly has a <u>huge</u> advantage<span
class="gmaildefault"> over China in the amount of computing power it has available: </span></span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
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class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><a
href="https://www.chinatalk.media/p/is-china-agi-pilled?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email"
moz-do-not-send="true"><b><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Is China Racing to AGI?</span></b></a></span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#500050">John K Clar</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">k<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p
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style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">So what if… our EVs have the option<span
style="color:#500050"> </span>of a high-power GPU as a cabin heater, replacing the nichrome coil? Then if we had some computing task requiring enormous resources, such as Bitcoin mining,<span
style="color:#500050"> </span>then every time we turn on the car heater in our EVs, that cranks up and starts calculating.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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This gives me two notions:<br>
1) The availability of millions of vehicles with 'computer heating'
would mean a vast network of computing nodes could be made, on which
some sort of distributed AI might be able to be run. This strikes me
as much more useful than mining bitcoins.<br>
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2) The chinese, with so many more people and cars, could use this to
narrow the computing power gap between themselves and the US, or
even reverse it:<br>
"As of 2024, China had over 30 million electric cars, accounting for
almost two-thirds of global electric vehicle sales, while the United
States had approximately 7.04 million electric cars sold since
2010." (iea.org + Wikipedia)<br>
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This supposes that they could get hold of the necessary hardware.
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Ben</pre>
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