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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> John Clark <johnkclark@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 13 December, 2025 3:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> spike@rainier66.com<br><b>Cc:</b> ExI chat list <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org>; BillK <pharos@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: QRE: [ExI] World’s fastest post-Concorde jet goes to first buyer<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Dec 12, 2025 at 11:50<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>AM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>>>… </span></i></span><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>We have the Bombardier company building the 8k. What if suddenly there is a hundredfold increase in the demand for those rigs? </span></i><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>>…That Bombardier jet is certainly a fun toy, if I was a trillionaire I'd probably buy one myself, and the Bombardier Company might make a lot of money off it. But I think it is a sign a future decline </span></b><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>if</span></b></span><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> a corporation starts buying a fleet of private jets….<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Ja, I see it more as something individuals would buy. Corporations need to show they are returning profits to their stockholders and expanding operations. CEOs report to a board of directors Individual trillionaires just make like they are at the YMCA and do whatever the heck they feel. They report only to a board of themself. <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>>…Were they really unable to find a better use for that money?</span></b><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span></b></span><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>As I said</span></b><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>,</span></b></span><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> for many years Bill Gates and all the top Microsoft executives fl</span></b><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>ew</span></b></span><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> on commercial airlines, eventually Gates did buy a private jet but he used his own money to do so</span></b><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>,</span></b></span><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> not Microsoft's.</span></b><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span></b></span> <span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>John K Clark<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>The ultra rich might see it as win all the way around. It pumps their money back into the economy, provides crazy high numbers of high end good jobs, builds factories, builds demand for the power infrastructure to run it all, with that last part perhaps the most important of all. <o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>We have been patiently waiting waiting waiting for the Greens to unify with the recognition a lot of us have long known: we have enough uranium, we have places to process or recycle radioactive waste (or just store in indefinitely (Nevada (do go on a road trip out there (do it (just drive around in a rental car (aaaaallllll daaaammmm daaaay (and you will realize this place has pleeeeenty of waste land to auger a deep mine and store radioactive anything we want.)))))) <o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Along with this is the collective realization that the USNavy figured out how to make compact, safe, reliable nuclear reactors, build them quickly. They don’t require a big footprint, they don’t swat birds or blanket the ground, they don’t need a lot of raw materials. They do need cooling water, but that can be taken from the Colorado River. The only emission material is steam, that’s all. No carbon dioxide, yay, let’s get going on this, the Chinese figured it out and have been going like a drug crazed rickshaw pilots getting those going.<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Ja we know, there isn’t time before the singularity, well, we don’t know that for sure. We have a situation where there is hungry investment capital sitting quietly everywhere, coiled up and ready to strike at the right opportunity. We have a rare nuke-friendly administration in DC, we have plenty of perception of future demand for power. So… let’s do it. Let’s get on it.<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Subject:</b> Re: QRE: [ExI] World’s fastest post-Concorde jet goes to first buyer</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>On Thu, Dec 11, 2025 at 9:28 AM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>> </span></i></span><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Oh there are plenty of good reasons for CEOs to haul their butts around to various factories and such. </span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>>…Are<span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault> CEO butts so magical that they're worth $80 million?</span></span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>To the CEOs with that kind of money they are. They have the money, they make the call on what their butts are worth. Our opinion doesn’t matter. The guy with the jet doesn’t care what we think.</span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>>>… </span></i></span><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Having a CEO show up and give a pep talk at the factory is better than a zoom call.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>>…A CEO showing up at a factory will not only interrupt production but likely instigate rumors of mass layoffs and decrease morale not increase it….</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Meh, doesn’t square with my own experience. My entire career was at a factory. Once in a very long while the top guy would show up for a pep talk. I don’t recall anyone worrying about a mass layoff.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>>…To each their own, all I know is that before I became <span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault>"</span>a gentleman of leisure<span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault>" </span>I never liked it when my boss started looking over my shoulder<span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault> as I worked</span>.<span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault> </span> </span></b> <span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>John K Clark</span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Ja. Where I worked, the CEO would have no idea what I am doing while I am at my job. I wouldn’t even be able to easily explain it. I might say something like: Sir my job is so secret, even I don’t know what I am doing.</span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>That was a common line in there. It sidesteps uncomfortable questions.</span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Regarding luxury jets: John you mentioned a thousand AI trillionaires. OK we can go with that. Think of the current situation, zero trillionaires, maybe two guys who could get there in the next few years, but one of them is age 81, so it isn’t clear he will live long enough (he might (Larry looks great.)) But suppose AI creates all this unimaginable wealth, and a thousand trillionaires make nearly all of it. </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>We have the Bombardier company building the 8k. What if suddenly there is a hundredfold increase in the demand for those rigs? Never mind why they want them. They want them. They have the money to buy them. So… we will build them.</span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Just the current market for the B8k is employing people in Ireland, employing people at the former Canadair factory in Quebec, at the aircraft manufacturing facilities of Cessna, Beechcraft and Boeing located in or near Wichita KS, at the aircraft manufacturing plant in Burbank, out at Edwards, in the San Jose area, all those outfits might be trying to crank up production while new factories go in place, probably in Nevada and plenty of other places around the planet once we recognize that of course we need to desalinate water and of course we need enormous power generation capacity to build all this stuff, and of course we need nuclear power plants everywhere.</span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>spike</span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8259345914870736385gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>